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Beyond the Art

Beyond the Art is hosted by Cray Bauxmont-Flynn and Joe Williams who strives to highlight a diversity of roles and voices across the Native American art world, from artists to museum directors and everyone in between.

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  • Join us for a captivating exploration of Indigenous art and innovation with the multi-talented Tai Leclaire – actor, comedian, and director. Tai takes us through his creative journey, beginning with his powerful short film "Headdress" that wowed audiences at Sundance. Drawing from his own experiences with microaggressions and casual racism, Tai shares how his improvisational skills have been pivotal in navigating his career. From his role in "Rutherford Falls" to his ability to harmonize comedy and serious themes, Tai's stories offer a profound look into the nuances of Indigenous representation on screen and the artistry behind it.As we turn the page, a former JCrew art director joins the conversation, highlighting the strides made in Indigenous representation in the entertainment world and advocating for even more diverse voices. Their insights reveal the rich humor and cultural significance embedded in Native-created content, from amusing anecdotes on the "Rutherford Falls" set to vibrant performances at Upright Citizens Brigade Theater. We even spice things up with a lighthearted debate on the merits of pineapple on pizza and tease some exciting projects on the horizon for 2025. This episode is a thoughtful blend of humor, advocacy, and anticipation that will leave you inspired and curious for more.
  • Join us on a journey through the vibrant world of Native American art and creativity as we celebrate our podcast's third year. As hosts, Cray Bauxmont-Flynn and Joe Williams, we reflect on the evolution of "Beyond the Art" and the incredible artists we've had the pleasure of showcasing. We share standout moments and stories from the past year, featuring inspiring conversations with Jeffrey Gibson and Crystal Worll, among others. Through these engaging discussions, we not only highlight the artists' unique work but also share the life lessons they impart. Our commitment to providing a platform for Native American artistry remains strong as we look ahead to 2024 and 2025 with gratitude for our listeners' continued support.Explore the world of Indigenous children's literature and the importance of authentic representation in storytelling. We discuss the excitement and challenges of creating stories that resonate with Native American youth, while also addressing the anxieties of hearing one's own voice on recordings and the potential for errors. Additionally, we touch on personal updates, including a potential move to California and the impact of ongoing fires in the region. With empathy and a focus on recovery efforts, we highlight the humanitarian crisis affecting communities in Southern California, emphasizing the power of stories to foster understanding and healing.Experience the diverse talents of Native American artists as we celebrate their creativity and contributions to the art world. We reflect on the past two years of the podcast, highlighting mentorship and storytelling as central themes, and the importance of challenging stereotypes to broaden perceptions. As we plan for 2025, our goal is to feature even more artists, ensuring their voices are heard. We also explore the challenges and triumphs of podcasting, from navigating interviews to creating a comfortable atmosphere for guests. With exciting guests like Jennifer Young and Suzanne Shownjo, we are eager to continue spotlighting incredible talents and sharing their impactful stories with our audience.
  • Celebrated Indigenous filmmaker and fashion designer Peshawn Bread graces our podcast with her powerful insights and inspiring journey. As we traverse the landscape of Peshawn's artistry, she unveils the rich tapestry woven by her Comanche, Kiowa, and Cherokee heritage into her creative work. From film to fashion, Peshawn champions the representation of Indigenous queer narratives, ensuring that joy and hope resonate with queer Indigenous youth. Her stories serve as a beacon, illuminating the path for the next generation seeking affirmation and a sense of belonging in their identity.Our dialogue takes us through the realms of mentorship and community, where figures like Sydney Freeland emerge as guiding lights for young Indigenous artists navigating the film industry. Peshawn's endeavors extend beyond her personal creative pursuits as she spearheads the compilation of a directory for Indigenous talent—an invaluable resource to foster collaborations and maintain the cultural integrity of Native American representation. This episode reveals how art can be a powerful tool for advocacy, and the delicate balance artists must strike when commercial interests meet cultural authenticity.As we wrap up, Peshawn shares her dreams for her fashion brand House of Sutai and reflects on the unexpected discovery of Indigenous connections in places from Hollywood to high fashion. It's a closing that leaves us inspired to support and seek out the richness of our own communities, encouraged by Peshawn's journey of creativity and cultural exploration.
  • When KP from Black Belt Eagle Scout graced us with her presence, we were struck by the serendipity behind the band's name—a tale woven from spontaneity rather than premeditation. She enchanted us with stories of how her Indigenous roots and personal voyage infuse her music with both healing and understanding—a soundscape where love is the enduring motif. As we conversed, KP unfolded the narrative of her artistic progression, casting light on the themes that pulse through her albums: a heartfelt connection to her homeland, the fortitude of friendship, and the layered experiences of queer identity.Navigating the music industry is no quiet ballad, and KP shared the complexities of her journey with the candidness of a true solo artist. From the sanctuary she creates for songwriting to her stance on inclusivity and representation for Indigenous artists, our discussion delved into the nuanced realities behind the melodies. KP's voice carried tales of cultural influences, from the Swinomish Indian Tribal community to the pulsing beats of local music scenes, underscoring the potent role musicians play in championing environmental and social causes through the evocative power of sound.The crescendo of our time with KP highlighted her aspirations and the exhilaration of live performances—how capturing the electric atmosphere of concerts can forge a deep resonance with audiences, both in person and online. With talks of setting up her studio, recording independently, and the spirited dance of collaboration, KP's narrative is one of ambition and the relentless pursuit of artistic fulfillment. As we wrapped, there was a sense of gratitude for the rich tapestry of insights KP provided, and an invitation to explore further with our partners at The American Art Collective podcast, shining a spotlight on the vibrant world of Native American artistry.
  • Ever been captivated by the sheer intricacy of beadwork or wondered about the stories woven into each piece? Martha Berry, a Cherokee National Treasure and bead artist, graces our podcast with a vivid tale of heritage and identity, stitched together with the timeless artistry of her people's beadwork. We unravel her deeply personal connection to the craft, from the early days of reviving ancestral skills to her current status as a cultural beacon. Through Martha’s lens, we see how beadwork isn't just an art form but a living narrative of the Cherokee spirit.Through our talk with Martha, the tapestry of Cherokee history comes alive as ancient symbols find new purpose in contemporary designs. Navigating the quest for traditional materials, we share in her triumphs and challenges, understanding the weight of responsibility that comes with cultural representation. As Martha imparts her wisdom on the delicate balance between authenticity and innovation, listeners are invited into a world where every bead carries the legacy of generations, and every creation is a tribute to the resilience and beauty of the Cherokee community.Looking ahead, Martha casts a visionary gaze on the evolution of beadwork and the importance of passing down this rich heritage. We celebrate the milestones of her journey, from the transformative power of art contests to the significance of her role as an educator. Martha's reflections on her artistic evolution, the honor of being a Cherokee National Treasure, and her aspirations for the future culminate in a stirring call to embrace art as a means to honor the past while enriching the future. Join us for an exploration into the vibrant world of Southeastern beadwork, where history, heart, and handiwork converge to craft compelling stories, one bead at a time.
  • Join us for an enriching conversation with the incredibly talented Nacona Burgess, as we explore his remarkable journey as a Native American artist and the power of storytelling through his paintings. Hailing from Oklahoma, Nacona takes us through his experiences growing up around the country, how it shaped his understanding of different tribes, and the unique approach he takes to create his art, often drawing directly on the canvas without any prior sketching. Dive into Nacona's secrets behind his creative process as he shares how he uses various materials like charcoal, spray paint, and even inspiration from his 13-year-old son's graffiti art to bring his visions to life. We also discuss the importance of education in the Native American art world and how Nacona has managed to showcase his artwork in galleries around the globe. As our conversation wraps up, Nacona and I delve into the emotional attachment that comes with both creating and collecting art, the significance of collaboration in the art world, and the evolving international perception of Native American artistry. Don't miss out on this fascinating episode with Nacona Burgess, where you'll gain valuable insights into Native American art and its powerful storytelling through paintings.
  • Cherokee photographer and filmmaker Cody Hammer shares an inspiring story of self-discovery and creative resilience that is bound to captivate our listeners. From an unexpected assignment at the Osage Nation, Cody's journey in photography began, evolving into a rich tapestry of visual storytelling that challenges stereotypes and celebrates Indigenous culture. He opens up about teaching himself through YouTube tutorials and the invaluable lessons from a mentor who taught him to savor the creative process rather than just the technical aspects.Rooted deeply in his cultural heritage and personal history, Cody's work is a testament to the power of visual narratives. Growing up near the Trail of Tears, he felt compelled to defy limiting stereotypes, eventually translating his passion into portrait photography. This episode highlights a pivotal moment when Cody captured a moving photograph of his wife at a rally for Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, showcasing how personal connections and family continue to influence his art and mission to portray his community positively.Listeners will also gain insights into Cody's transition from photography to cinematography, exploring the challenges and joys of crafting visual stories across different media. From mastering light to using emotive color palettes, Cody discusses how his Cherokee and Muscogee Creek heritage and life experiences shape his work. This episode is a celebration of creativity, family, and cultural representation, offering a unique glimpse into how Cody maintains his artistic vision while honoring his roots.
  • Celebrated artist Jonathan Thunder takes us on a captivating journey through his world of art, animation, and storytelling. As a member of the Red Lake Band of Ojibwe, Jonathan melds urban and Indigenous influences to create works that are both visually stunning and thought-provoking. Join us as Jonathan shares how his heritage and upbringing in the Twin Cities fuel his creative process, allowing him to tackle themes of identity, sociopolitical issues, and cultural revitalization with a unique blend of insight and intuition. His distinct approach to art offers a vivid tapestry of inspiration for anyone passionate about creativity and cultural expression.Jonathan's work reimagines historical events and challenges conventional narratives through a lens that intertwines classic cartoons with Indigenous stories. Discover how pieces like his version of "Washington Crossing the Delaware" incorporate characters like Marvin the Martian to address contemporary issues such as treaty rights and cultural tensions. With a flair for storytelling, Jonathan invites us to view his art as a playful yet profound commentary on society, pushing the boundaries of how Indigenous perspectives are represented and understood in the modern art world.Our conversation doesn't shy away from the challenges artists face in today's dynamic industry. Jonathan shares insights on navigating the world of digital art, NFTs, and the pressures of balancing commissioned work with personal projects. His experiences highlight the importance of community support and authenticity, particularly for Native artists striving to maintain their cultural voice amidst technological shifts. As Jonathan prepares for his upcoming solo exhibitions, he offers us an exciting glimpse into his fusion of humor and deeper reflections, promising a memorable showcase of art that resonates on many levels.
  • Osamuskwasis Roan, a talented fashion designer with roots deep in Cree and Dene heritage, joins us for an inspiring conversation on Beyond the Art. Hailing from Pigeon Lake, Alberta, Osamuskwasis passionately incorporates traditional floral motifs and geometric patterns into her designs, blending time-honored techniques with cutting-edge technology. She delves into her creative process and the ethical imperatives that shape her brand, underscoring the significance of sustainability in fashion. Osamuskwasis also opens up about the vital encouragement she receives from her family, the profound impact of her health on her artistic journey, and her steadfast commitment to self-care.As we discuss the broader landscape of Indigenous fashion, Osamuskwasis emphasizes the critical role of storytelling in empowering the next generation. She shares her aspirations for the future, including meaningful collaborations with fellow artists, opening her own storefront, and engaging with community youth. We touch on the challenges of maintaining cultural authenticity while navigating the fashion industry and envision a future where Indigenous brands can thrive without compromising their rich heritage. This heartfelt episode highlights the resilience and ingenuity of an Indigenous artist who is striving to make a lasting impact.
  • How does one reconcile a dual identity and create art that resonates across cultures? Join us for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Art, where we welcome Dyani White Hawk, a remarkable artist whose journey is shaped by her Native and non-native upbringing. Raised in Madison, Wisconsin, Dyani's story is one of resilience and creativity, influenced profoundly by her mother's efforts to reconnect with their Lakota roots. From her involvement in snowboarding and hip-hop subcultures to her diverse job experiences, Dyani's path was anything but conventional. Her early artistic talents were nurtured at an alternative high school, leading her to further develop her skills at Haskell Indian Nations University.We delve into the rich dialogue between Lakota art forms and modern artistic practices. Dyani's unique perspective, informed by both Indigenous and Western art histories, challenges existing hierarchies in the art world and highlights the often-overlooked contributions of Indigenous artists. Through an exploration of modern abstract painting and traditional Lakota elements, Dyani shares the thoughtful decision-making process behind her choice of artistic mediums. This discussion emphasizes the importance of recognizing and valuing the creative output of Indigenous artists, pushing the boundaries of conventional art narratives.Dyani also sheds light on the significant challenges faced by Indigenous artists in gaining recognition. Her powerful "Listen" video installation immerses viewers in native languages, urging them to reflect on their own familiarity with these tongues. As we navigate the contemporary art landscape, Dyani offers practical advice for emerging Native artists, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and community. We also celebrate her recent accolades and the empowering role of financial support in her practice. Her story underscores the importance of honest representation, resilience, and the collective effort to elevate Native voices in public art spaces. Join us for an enriching episode that bridges cultures and inspires future generations.
  • Discover the transformative journey of John Murie, an artist from the Chippewa Cree tribe whose work transcends tradition and modernity. From his early inspiration drawn from comic books to his formal training at the Institute of American Indian Arts, John has seamlessly blended cultural heritage with contemporary elements to create art that resonates deeply. Hear about his adventures on the powwow circuit, where he mastered the intricate crafts of beadwork and moccasin making, and how these skills shaped his unique artistic voice.Experience the meticulous artistry behind John's moccasin making as he shares the challenges and triumphs of ensuring each pair tells a different story. Listen to a heartfelt account of crafting a special pair for his son Reed’s graduation, inspired by his Cree name, Rising Chief. Learn about John's collaboration with renowned artist Jeffrey Gibson for a major art installation in Brooklyn, and how this opportunity elevated his work to new heights. John's perspective on the balance between traditional craftsmanship and modern innovation is both insightful and inspiring, as he discusses the use of contemporary materials and unconventional canvases like skateboards.Join our conversation with John as he reflects on his journey from blackjack dealer to art teacher at Stone Child College, where he now inspires the next generation of artists. John emphasizes the significance of exposing students to diverse artistic possibilities, from gallery exhibits to fashion design. Celebrate the rich cultural heritage and innovative spirit of Indigenous artistry, and gain a deeper understanding of John's vision for the future of Native art. The episode concludes with a look at how John and his family collaborate to ensure traditional skills and knowledge are preserved for generations to come.
  • Crystal Worl, an artist of Tlingit and Athabaskan heritage, captivates us with stories of her artistic journey and the cultural threads that weave through her work. Raised in Fairbanks, Alaska, she learned the intricate crafts of beading and sewing from her mother and grandmother, embedding her pieces with the rich symbolism of clan crests and the duality of raven and eagle moieties. Her art, a vibrant fusion of traditional form line designs and modern techniques, invites us to explore the balance and responsibility inherent in Tlingit society.Crystal's path has been profoundly shaped by her mentorship with the esteemed Haida artist Robert Davidson. Through his tutelage, she mastered the technical skills of form line design and embraced the essential philosophies of balance, patience, and visualization. These lessons have deepened her work, allowing her to modernize clan stories and examine the relationships between people, land, and animals. Crystal's reflections on the importance of mentors and the enduring wisdom they impart offer valuable insights into the intersection of tradition and contemporary art practices.The episode also highlights Crystal's impactful public art ventures, including a significant mural of Elizabeth Peratrovich in Juneau. She shares the rewarding yet challenging journey of creating large-scale public art, emphasizing the power of community support and collaboration. With exciting future projects on the horizon, such as pop-up shops and a major commission at the Seattle airport, Crystal continues to innovate and inspire through her storytelling and artistry, showcasing the dynamic evolution of Indigenous art in the modern world.