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One Small Step participants discuss their differences in faith

Illustration by Blake Behrens

One Small Step participants Nick Zoller and Karen McBee were not only one of the first sign-ups here in Oklahoma in 2021, but were also the first conversation KOSU recorded.

Both Nick and Karen have experiences as educators in higher education. We paired them not only because of their similarities in careers, but because both of them were looking to gain understanding from someone they knew was politically different from them.

Some of their differences included their views on economics and their relationship and journeys with religion. In the audio above, you'll hear just a snippet of their conversation about what led Karen to identify with agnosticism and what Nick's journey has been like, too.

KOSU hosted a One Small Step live event via Zoom in mid-November that talked about the behind the scenes of pairings, production, participant post-conversation reflections and more. You can find that live event below:

One opportunity participants decide on post-conversation is to have the ability to store their conversation with the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress. In addition to that, StoryCorps also has an online archive. Both Nick and Karen not only opted-in to store their conversation within the Library of Congress, but also decided to open their conversation publicly on the online archive.

If you want to hear their full conversation — check out their archive entry here.

You can sign up to participate in a One Small Step conversation here.

StoryCorps’ One Small Step is made possible in part by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a private corporation funded by the American people.

Kateleigh Mills was the Special Projects reporter for KOSU from 2019 to 2024.
Matthew Viriyapah is KOSU's production assistant and host of the music podcast Songwriters & Tour Riders.
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